Talk:Cori Bush/Archive 1

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Hi guys sorry I'm not the best editor or anything, just thought I'd start it and hopefully somebody more experienced can perfect it so it's a good article. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stanloona2020 (talk • contribs) 2020-07-22T22:51:40 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the article Stanloona2020! Paradoxsociety 05:06, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

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Sorry I'm not an editor at all but noted the line "he district and its predecessors have been in Democratic hands for all but 17 months since 1909." didn't ring true to me. After research found two faults. The 1909 number seems to be out of the blue since that was in the midst of decades of Democrat hands. But also per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri%27s_1st_congressional_district there was a Republican holding the seat for 6 years (1943-1949). 2600:6C40:4000:EE20:69F7:5A5:5E4D:18D9 (talk) 21:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

She attended Cardinal Ritter College Prep for High school, not public school — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siegehalver (talk • contribs) 14:06, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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To add to this article: mention of her self-proclaimed role as a Black Lives Matter activist. Black Lives Matter is mentioned in two references and one category for this article, yet the organization is not mentioned even a single times in the body of the article. Why? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 23:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

This is interesting. The article does mention her role in Ferguson, but does not in the body link to BLM. It probably should. Will look into how to expand this part. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Why is this locked? Why is there no mention of her far left extremist views and hate filled attacks on cops? Missouri Democratic Rep. Cori Bush praised the Black Lives Matter activist who advocated "death" for police officers in 2014 and tweeted the BLM chant "pigs in a blanket fry 'em like bacon." https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cori-bush-praises-blm-activist-who-wished-death-on-police-officers-fry-em-like-bacon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:603:4a80:5870:b5f8:9dfb:8ab1:7e4f (talk) 13:50, May 16, 2021 (UTC)

The article is locked to prevent vandals from saying things like far left extremist views and hate filled attacks on cops. Also to prevent the addition of hatchet pieces like that one from Fox News, an organization that is biased to the point that it has been deemed unreliable for U.S. politics. See WP:RSP for more information. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:50, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

WFB

Well, that's just one discussion on reliable sources noticeboard. (And the person who wrote that they don't do corrections is wrong see: https://freebeacon.com/national-security/influence-power-how-china-covertly-operates-in-the-u-s/ for instance) The most recent in depth article I could find on them is https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bensmith/eliana-johnson-free-beacon (green at perennial sources list) from 2019 when Eliana Johnson left her position at Politico (green at perennial sources list) and Smith is reasonably positive. And there are other similar evaluations at The_Washington_Free_Beacon#Reception And nonconservative newssources hire WFB reporters, so it's not as if they're outcasts "The Daily Beast is hiring Lachlan Markay as its new White House Reporter, the site will announce on Wednesday. Markay joins from The Washington Free Beacon, where he's worked since 2013, and where he built a name for himself as a conservative journalist focusing on money and politics." https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/02/the-daily-beast-hires-lachlan-markay-235252 1177BC (talk) 03:45, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't really understand what you wrote there. Washington Free Beacon is an awful source. Better sourcing would be needed to indicate that Bush actually is or was a faith healer. This "guilt by association" stuff is a pure WP:COATRACK and reads to me like a BLP smear. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for responding. I understand that "coatracking" would be something like "This politician is a member of church X. Let's now discuss all of the stuff church X believes. In 1398..." What I put in the article was "Bush worked as a pastor at church X. The head pastor of church X trained her as a faith healer and supervised her performing faith healings, which this church believes cure cancer and COVID." I mean, this is actually directly about her and is quite interesting? If there was acceptable sourcing for this, would you disagree this belongs in the article? Sourcing: Why is the Washington Free Beacon not acceptable as a source? Here are articles, including from Mother Jones and The New Republic, saying it meets mainstream standards of journalism: "A Top White House Reporter Is Taking Over The Washington Free Beacon". BuzzFeed News. Retrieved 2021-05-20. https://newrepublic.com/article/143419/democrats-like-jon-ossoff-welcome-washington-free-beacon "The Washington Free Beacon Is Unapologetically Conservative. It’s Also Kind of Good." https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/03/washington-free-beacon-conservative-investigative-media/ Or: https://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2017/02/the-daily-beast-hires-lachlan-markay-235252 Journalists from The Epoch Times or Newsmax don't move to/from jobs at mainstream outlets like Politico or The Daily Beast. I agree that they should be used with caution because of their ideological position, but this is a pretty clear cut situation where ideological bias doesn't have much scope. Apostle Ndifon was her boss at Kingdom Embassy, the Beacon interviewed him, then they called Bush's press office giving them a chance to deny the stuff he said, and they didn't. 1177BC (talk) 20:53, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Muboshgu (talk · contribs) 1177BC (talk) 23:14, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

1177BC, this "faith healer" story is one that went through the right-wing media last week. I see it from the Free Beacon, Daily Mail (which is deprecated), Daily Wire, and some others. I don't see any reputable sources covering this story, which is a marker of a hit piece getting amplified within the right wing media bubble, but being WP:UNDUE for this article. The content that you added was about Charles Ndifon and I don't see any reliable sources that connect Ndifon to Bush. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

1) Please could someone actually respond to my arguments above about the reliability of WFB? 2) KSC found WFB credible enough that they asked Bush about it. Does KSC become a nonRS through contagion too or something? 3) KSC politely intimate that Bush stonewalled them: “Bush was less clear in responding to [the claim she had practiced faithhealing]…However, she did not clarify…Her spokeswoman would also not comment on the matter,”. If the story's nonsense why so evasive? 1177BC (talk) 13:42, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

The claim that Cori Bush was a faith healer was made by an unreliable source. Her denial of the claim does not make it any more noteworthy, if anything it makes it less noteworthy. I'm sure that if asked Cori Bush would also deny being a reptilian in a human suit, and such a denial would not make the claim credible enough to be included in a wikipedia article. KSC is reliable enough but they are just reporting on the claim made in WFB. It's also a local news site without much widespread reach. If this story starts being reported on by major news sites it could potentially be notable enough to be included even if denied. MatsT (talk) 21:53, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Expand on Religion

It is noted in this article that this person is a pastor. Do we have more information on what faith and so forth? Please expand on this. I am handicapped and have little experience, nor with my disability do I relish dealing with the prominent editor on this page.208.123.153.141 (talk) 13:30, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2021

She earned a graduate diploma in nursing from the Lutheran School of Nursing in 2008 and also became a pastor.[7][8][9] Change "graduate diploma in nursing" to "diploma in nursing." Diploma nursing programs are rare, having been supplanted by associate and baccalaureate degree programs .

Supporting citation: Lutheran School of Nursing is a for-profit nursing school that offers a diploma nursing program for registered nurses (RNs) and licensed practical nurses (LPNs).

Cori Bush has been licensed in Missouri as a registered nurse since 2013. Her initial application for her nursing license was briefly delayed due to non-payment of state taxes. Divameister (talk) 23:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done ––𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲 talk 23:41, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2021

Delete the Israel subsection under Political Positions and delete the BDS position. These are given disproportional attention relative to actual legislative proposals that Cori Bush has sponsored or co-sponsored available here: https://www.congress.gov/member/cori-bush/B001224 Doc Hoagie (talk) 01:18, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

 Partly done I reverted the recent addition of the 'Israel' subsection. I agree the content is undue right now, though reliable sources may later give more prominent coverage to this issue. Additionally, the section only cited Fox News, which is not a reliable source of American politics, and therefore not usable in demonstrating proper due weight.

I did not make the BDS line removal edit, though I don't oppose it. You may want to explain your reasoning further in the hopes of building consensus for that change. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 02:55, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

A Pastor?

What is the proof that she has any credentials as a pastor except the fact that she claims she is one? Is that the new standard? 63.155.55.235 (talk) 07:10, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Three references in the entry verify this claim. Innisfree987 (talk) 07:23, 5 January 2023 (UTC)